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and same thing with bill clinton and younger clinton showed more personality. bush the younger remained personally popular until the recession kicked in. right now in a popularity poll, president obama is ahead of mitt romney by throw three-points according to a new survey. after next week's debate it could change dramatically. there is no question about obama and romney realize they must come across as nice guys that is why they go on entertainment programs. >> we're is very happy you came on this a mrs. obama and brought your date? >> i brought him. he had a few minutes in his schedule. >> i told folks i'm supposed to be eye candy. >> what is your guilty pleasure. >> a donut for me. >> peanut butter sandwiches. >> what does he wear for bed? >> bill: some candidates believe that they shouldn't be dealing with trivia when the economy is awful and there is turmoil in the middle east but they do what they have to do. talking points understand that americans want their leaders to be accessible. they wanted to know that powerful people understand that. that is why the president's campaign h
from the south. now he sounds more like bill clinton. he can get up there and say something like that knowing full well his vote was not in support of those people. this shows you, people will say is this the real obama or is he playing a role now as commanderrer in chief? >> greg: two points. they had mother jones discus discussing this. when the story about the haircut incident or bain capital comes up, they never say it came from a liberal blog or outlet. but this is coming up from the conservative areas because you didn't do your damn job. this is another point. this isn't a conservative nightmare. a liberal dream fulfillment. if you ask any of the obama supporters, they want the old obama. they want the fiery obama. to them, the modern obama is van halen with sammy maggar. they want van halen with roth. when he gets re-elected we'll see the old obama, fiery obama. they should be happy to see this. >> eric: this begs the question forget about the money, the man could stand on the podium and do that, point the finger and say where is your stafford money, knowing very well staf
we are serious about tackles the mess. ask bill clinton. sometimes you just need a do-able plan that is enough to get the markets believing and the rating agencies to hold off downgrading and have americans feeling more confident. you did not have to wave a wand and tell us how you will make all the red ink disappear overnight. you just have to state a plan on starting the process. tomorrow night be the former reagan economic adviser who remembers how bill clinton and how ronald reagan did that. you do not have to change things immediately, you just have to give a plan that makes people think and hope and pray you have started the process, right? >>guest: that is correct. you need to get growth. you have to get growth. you cannot balance the budget on the backs of the unemployed and the poor. that is where a flat tax comes in. it allows attraction of the capital abroad. sam nunn was correct, you have to cut government spending. that has to happen, especially entitlements where you pay people not to work. there are other ways of bringing the debt down. cool ones. for example, how
that and calling it work. >> bill: so they tightened up the rules and it work. let me read stats here. bill clinton in '96, there were 25 million americans on food stamps in the clinton administration. after the welfare work rules were tightened up, 17 million. so it dropped 8 million. 33% drop. the case loads plummeted. 50% in the welfare arena after congress, newt gingrich and bill clinton -- >> it's wonderful. >> bill: we all agree that what they did in '96 was good for the country, for the poor, for everybody. we all agree? >> actually for poor people, yes. >> bill: so why on earth would he want to water that down? he being president obama? why would you want to do that? >> because states within to experiment -- >> bill: wait, wait. who cares whether states want to experiment? if the federal law is working for the good of the country. what do i care whether delaware or california wants to do something differently? why should i care? >> because over time, none of these federal or state or local, either laws work well. i send an intern out to these job centers to see what kinds of help they gave.
. >> when bill clinton was president the average family income went up $7500. $7500. since george bush has been president, it's gone down $2,000. think about that. that's a $9500 swing. $9500. that's money out of your pocket. that's money going out of this country because we're borrowing it from china to send to saudi arabia to buy oil. that's what's added $4 trillion to our deficit. i mean, think about that. so we've created a mountain of debt for the next generation that they're going to have to pay off. >> sean: remember, under obama's watch household income has plummeted more than 8%, and he's added more debt than almost all of his predecessors combined. the president doesn't want to talk about his record because it's a record of failure. he's been disengaged from the moment he took office. not only is he not willing to meet with world leaders bike prime minister benjamin netanyahu, not willing to reach across the isle about serious matters. massive cuts and our defense are looming. the massive tax hike in history is imminent. mr. president, the solutions to those problems won't be rea
. bill clinton was impeached for lies. where is the accountability in this administration? own up to the fact we are at war with an evil force that will never be satisfied until we are all dead. this is not about political offices or expanded geopolitical borders. this is about the survival of our civilization. if this administration won't lead in the battle, then step aside and let someone do it who won't lie to us and endanger our children. [ applause ] on friday the director of national intelligence issued a statement. joining me is katherine hair aj. why this document on friday afternoon? >> you know when you've got bad news the place you put it, that is when we had with the statement. this is a person who is top intelligence officer in the united states government. i have the statement right here. what i believe it does it attempts to give the administration some cover for their initial comments and then concludes what we saw in libya wasn't terrorism. there is a problem here. when you read the statement is what you see is the administration assessments of libya went way beyo
and asleep. who do you want answering the phone. bill: that ad from hillary clinton questioning whether barack obama was ready to handle threats to our country. some are saying benghazi was the 3:00 a.m. call to the white house and barack obama flubbed it miserably. john bolton is here. >> i thought the article was outstanding. anybody who hasn't read it should get a copy of the "wall street journal" and take a look at it. he points to the obama administration ideology being at fault both before the attack and afterwards. that's important to understand. before the attack we clearly didn't suspect it was coming. that's due to an intelligence failure in the sense we looked for information and couldn't get it or if the ideological reason applied they didn't think we needed to ask for the information. al qaeda has been defeated, the war on terror is over, libya is a great success, what could go wrong. obviously it did go wrong. but if the administration from the top down isn't processing reality, this is the kind of tragedy you get. bill: you are pinpointing the ideology. so this was their
than issues. this video is said to have hurt john kerry. this is said to have helped bill clinton. bill clinton. in the 1980 republican primary george bush had moment against ronald reagan, until in the debate in new hampshire, there was a moment where reagan looked strong. >> i am paying for this microphone. >> that moment helped change the campaign. >> some o some of them you can . >> read my lips. no new taxes. >> the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull, lipstick. >> other ones, you got to depend on your candidate seizing a moment you didn't expect to happen. >> there you go again. >> most moments so far this election have been poorly phrased comments. >> if you've got a business, you didn't build that. somebody else made that happen. >> i like being able to fire people that provide services to me. >> they'll put y'all back in chains. >> the media call those gaffes, but often the media don't know. when ed musky lost the '072 primary because he looked like he teared up defending his wife, everyone said candidates can't career, because that's week, but then in 2008 hillary c
to former president bill clinton in new hampshire, who made the case this is a choice about the next four years. >> the economy is not fixed. i am telling you, nobody can fix this much damage in four years. but the president's economic plan is better in the short run, better in the long run. >> reporter: the president made the opposite case in 2009. vowing to get the economy fixed in three years or this would be in his words a one-term proposition. which is why senator marco rubio told fox he believes the president will be vulnerable tonight if romney focuses on this point. >> we can't afford four more years of barack obama. we can barely aforfour more months. if we have four more years of president obama we can't wait four years for the economy to start growing. >> reporter: that may be resonating as the race tightening again in latest nbc news, "wall street journal" poll. romney is trailing by three points, within the margin of error. 46% of registered voters approve of the president's handling of the economy. 51% disapprove. top aides say the president's strategy tonight is to try to t
denver will decide if he gets another four years. he leaned on bill clinton to make the case this is no way he could have turned this around in four years. >> the economy is not fixed. i am telling you, nobody could have fixed this much damage in four years. the president's mock plan is better in the short run, the long run and a vision where all of us in this together is better than you be often your own. there is no on your own country in the world succeeding like those who have a good "we are all in this together" strategy. >>reporter: the order of questions is decided. the president gets the first. the problem with the argument that former president clinton made in 2009 president obama said if he didn't turn this around in 3 or 3 1/2 years it would be a one-term proposition. something governor romney will point out. >> the governor aides say -- the obama camp will focus on the economy, taxes and the deficit and will hit romney hard on the idea that bill clinton has been making and made at the democratic national convention in charlotte, north carolina, it does not add up
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? >> calista has suggested to me that this model exists. >> bill: look at secretary of state hillary clinton's schedule this week. she met with the president of libya. she's not the president. president obama is. she met with the president of egypt, the president of yemen. she found in her schedule this week for prime minister netanyahu, and at the same time met with foreign ministers, which are her counterparts in the government. she found time in her busy schedule to meet these people. >> well, there's a huge difference. hillary clinton is a serious person. barack obama is an ambitious person. they're very different personalities. hillary clinton actually gets up every day thinking about public policy. barack obama gets up every day thinking about barack obama. i mean, they're very different approaches to life. i think those of us who are his critics need to get over and understand, this who is president. this is a man who in the age of false celebritihood is sort of the perfect president, because he's a false president. he's a guy who doesn't do the president's job. he's had 39% of the br
but had one of his best surrogates former president bill clinton aides say will be the primary case tonight which this was an economic crisis he inherited and tough to turn around in one term. take a listen to bill clinton. >> the economy is not fixed. i'm telling you nobody could have fixed this much damage in four years. but the president's economic plan is better in the short run, better in the long run and a vision of we're all in this together is a heck of a lot better than you're on your own. there is no you're on your own country in the world succeeding like those who have a good we're all in this together strategy. [cheers and applause] none, not one. the challenge for the president tonight though is back in early 2009 he said if he didn't turn around the economy for n. three years it would be a one-term proposition. that's the problem when you are incouple again you have got a record that's going to it be under microscope not just from the moderator but mitt romney as well, shep. >> shepard: it seems he has a strategy of his own for going after mitt romney. >> when you talk
apologies, no more coverups. retched nixon lied because of coverups and bill clinton i am protested because of lies and coverups, where is the accountability in this administration, own up to the fact that we are at war with an evil force never be molified or satisfied until we're all dead. this is not about political offices or expanded geopolitical orders, this is about the survival of our civilization, if this administration can't or won't lead in the battle then step aside and let someone do it who won't lie to us and endanger our children. [applause] well, on friday, the office of the director of national intelligence issued a statement, attempting to put the matter to rest, going to washington is the chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge. why this document dump on a friday afternoon? >> well, you know, governor, as well as everyone else when you've got bad news, the place you put it is late on friday, what we had with the statement from director of national intelligence, a person who is a top intelligence officer in the united states government and i have the statement r
talking is what bill clinton is talking about. talking point memo bill o'reilly discusses why like ability is so important and debates are going to be crucial for both candidates. >> there are two kinds of voters in america those who know what the issues are those who don't. for the uninformed casual voert emotion drives the decision and part of that equation is like ability. many historians belief ronald reagan defeated jimmy carter because he came across as likeable while carter was distant. same thing with clinton and the younger clinton had like ability. the younger remain personally popular until the resignificance kicked in. right now in a popularity poll president obama is ahead of mitt rom flee by 3 points according to a new fox news survey. after the debates that could change dramatically. romney and obama realize they must seem like the nice guy that's why they go on entertainment programs. they shouldn't be dealing with trivia but they do what they think they have to do. talking points understands that americans want their leaders to be accessible. they want to know that powerfu
-september, tied with bill clinton by the end of october, though clinton eventually won. a former clinton pollster is questioning the assumptions being made in today's polls. >> these polls are assuming that you have the same high level of african american, latino, and young people vote in 2012 that you had in 2008. >> obama campaign senior advisor david axelrod told fox, "public polls are widely variant in their sampling and methodology so it's hard to case when they all point in one direction they're all wrong, but we are planning for a close race as we always have." another democratic strategist offered this assessment -- >> the race isn't over. look, this thing can move back and forth three or four times between now and november 6th. if i'm romney, you try to create that momentum. he saw a sign to do it. >> of the eight presidential races in the past 10 where the leads were cut or flipped by the opponent, the average of the comebacks was roughly 5%. in some cases it was a debate that moved the needle. harris? >> mike, thank you of the let's go to syria where the u.n. is estimating more than 20
to my defense. i was called a racist, bill clinton was called a racist. i have seen bill talk to you and others saying donald trump is a good guy. we have a good relationship and he is a good guy. i believe the hate tried he had and maybe doesn't have any more for obama was unbelievable but people are afraid to to take obama on. i don't know what it is. >> this is amazing four years later he saved the democratic convention for obama. he said in 2008 they played the race card with me and they planned it from the beginning. >> he felt that very strongly. >> you feel he did that fto you? >> he did. you mention certain things it's racist. any time you criticize obama whether it's trump or anybody else you get the ratest thing going. it's very unfair, not nice. i enjoyed, i must tell you. i love thinking about running. as you know i was doing incredibly well. people liked what i said whether it was about china or opec ripping us off or whether it was about obama. i wish he were a great president. i am a republican. if he were the greatest president i would be a happy guy. it is not workin
of bill clinton who happened to kick his butt two weeks ago in charlotte, north carolina. you're not going to win votes spending the day with bill clinton. you need to be out and energizing your base. and right now, to be honest with you, the republican party base is not, in fact, energized, and the new attack, the new track that mitt romney's taking needs to energize his base and move forward. find a base and stay on it. megyn: that's so interesting. look at this list of polls. this is by a guy at the weekly standard that shows just the latest polling among independents, okay? between romney and obama. and just look at the bottom average. it's 43-43. and all these polls are just razor tight as the men do among independent voters, i mean, it's razor thin. so your point is well taken that these two guys need to be focused on rallying their base since the independents right now seem evenly split. >> absolutely right. you've got to get your base on track to make sure today show up on election day. and remember, for mitt romney he's got to remember those reagan democrats. what effects them? jo
the moderator and critecal moments of campaign is how you turn. >> bill clinton used wag the platform. >> how do you advice. not to put your finger. it is a question of emphasis. and al gore did something risky and it back fired. he walked off his podium and invaded governor bush's speech. he was prepared for al gore to approach him. al gore had done that in the prevous primary. how close do they have to be prepared. you have to be comfortable and prepared for everything . so part of it is, not only what you are saying but how you are reacting and looking and you try to practice those and anticipate. >> is there such a thing as being over prepared and you are not able to be spontanous. this is uncontrolled environment. i try to say you can't control the minutes, but have in your head what it is that you want to do and practice how you do different things and you don't have a script. >> it is three agencies of that are gone when i am there. congress and. what is the third one. >> maximizing dralm a. >> it is what we all remember . we listen for lines. and it a cap stone to what reagan won. it was
party, i don't care whether it was jimmy carter or bill clinton or george bush or ronald reagan or george h.w. bush had had a terrorist incident and gotten on an airplane after saying something and flown off to a fund raisener las vegas, they would have been crucified. it would have been, it should have been barack -- equivalent for barack obama of george bush's flying over katrina moment. >> but nothing was said at all. and nothing will be said. >> with us now is mr. caddell. so you think this is an organized press suppression of this story? >> well, organized -- whether it's organized is a straight conspiracy, everyone is in on it and doing it and it's a purposeful conscious effort to suppress news that might help obama. we have gone down a slippery slope here. look, bill, we have had liberal bias or bias in the press for a long time. for many years. but it's gotten worse starting in 2008. now we have a press that actively engages in the re-election. putting out a narrative that romney is a loser, you know running polls, they are using like telling n.i.v. adding on romney. rom
is on morning joe this morning, bill clinton weighed in on the refereeing. he is the expert on blown calls, because he made so many mistakes. it's his administration. he made a lot of mistakes. >> bob: dribble, dribble, dribble, pass the ball to you, buddy. you got it now. this is now becoming a to be a farce. don't you think it's now time for this to get resolved and the officials? >> eric: yeah. last week we were on record saying they did a good job. make the deal. your contract straight. this is another issue where unions get away with -- take everything away from what matters. >> andrea: are we surprised they made bad calls? because the news today is they came from the lingerie league. used to have the bra straps strapped. >> greg: that is harder. >> bob: do you notice how much greg and dana were paying attention to this segment? >> dana: i was laughing. >> bob: writing notes back and forth. i do think you have now come from division ii schools, in college. trying to do a game faster and much more complicated. they will change -- what troy aikman called a joke. i thought they were doin
does not give his country the same sense of security that bill clinton did during peace negotiations in 2000. the unnamed official says, "president clinton made us feel like he had our back at camp david. we felt he'd be there if things went bad. president obama doesn't give us the same sense that he'd be there." interesting added part of this story that article was tweeted out by the official press office. today, the president said through the chief spokesperson what many others in the administration have already acknowledged, that the deadly attack against u.s. mission in benghazi was, in fact, terrorism. thaw want specifics on what was known before the attack and about the perpetrators afterwards. here is catherine herridge. >> in addition to branding the benghazi attack as terrorism at the u.n. today, secretary of state hillary clinton acknowledged suspected involvement of aqim. >> they are working with other extremists to undermined the transition underway in north africa as we saw in benghazi. >> 15 days after the attack on the consulate, the administration official claimed it
to be reelected. do you think, steve, people believe the bill clinton argument that nobody, no president, could have actually solved this in four years? >> yeah, i do think that had some effect. there is no question that president obama came out of the conventions with a little bit of momentum. you talk, it is not only showing up in the public polling that we're talking about here today but talk to republican pollsters polling on senate and house races and they will talk about what they call the clinton bump. they have seen it across polling in various parts of the country that voters who are asked a question is the country on the right track, is the country on the wrong track, which most pollsters believe the single best determiner ho will win in november, there was a jump in the right track number, even if they don't specifically agree with how the president is handling the economy, on the general question whether we're on the right track, they think we are, because you think in part democrats successfully pressed this message that nobody could have done better than president obama's done. gr
president was down nine points and died with bill clinton but october though clinton eventually won. former pollster questioning the assumption made in today's polls. >> these polls are assuming that you have the same high level of african-american, latino an young people vote in 2012 that you had in 2008. >> they said the public poll are varying in the sampling and methodology so it's hard to make the case when they point in one direction, they're all wrong. but we are planning for a close race as we always have. >> another democratic strategist offered this assessment. >> this isn't over. it can move back and forth three and four times between now and november 6. if i'm romney you try to create that momentum. he saw a sign to do it. >> of the eight presidential races in the past ten where the leads were cut or flipped by the opponent, the average was 5%. in some cases a debate moved the needle. bret? >> bret: thanks. today, missouri republican senate candidate todd akin confirmed he was arrested in pro-life demonstration 25 years ago and he is defending a comment that the democratic incom
day i believe bill clinton took it every day. he thinks he is smarter. that's the most important half hour of the day for the president who has to protect the security of the united states. >> after all of the controversy it is reported that president obama is now attending 100 percent of his intelligence briefings. >> time for the first degree weather update. maria molina has more on the expected rain in the northeast. good morning maria. >> good morning. we are expecting areas of rain across parts of the northeast and also again more storms over areas in illinois parts of indiana, kentucky into missouri. we could be seeing more severe weather across the area. first i wanted to start out with the showers. they are already moving on into portions of new england down into parts of massachusetts and connecticut. we saw some of the light drizzle early this morning in new york city. grab the umbrella you are going to need it through out the day. this front will be slow mover through out the day. it will continue to produce showers in the northeast. rumbles of thunder into indiana, illinoi
that bill clinton took it every day. this president thinks he's smarter than those guys and he doesn't have to engage in the discussion. that's the most important half hour of the day for a president who has to protect the security of the united states. >> gretchen: it's interesting because when you ask people what is the most important role of the president of the united states, that's usually the answer that's given by historians, to protect this nation. so in that essence, john sununu probably not going to get much criticism for that statement, but should he go to these things in person? turns out now he is going to all the intel briefings since it came to light that he wasn't. >> brian: i like -- yesterday the republicans are saying he's not being direct in saying the difference between the two. he said flat out. it was a terrorist attack. al-qaeda assassinated our diplomat. that's an act of terror. the white house does not want to admit it and it is trouble to go a group of senators who got together and not only want to know why the president is not being more candid, but want to know
their votes. they're speaking out in a new ad for the romney/ryan ticket. shot clock. >> i voted for bill clinton twice. i voted for clinton. >> i voted for clinton. >> al gore. >> i voted for al gore. >> al gore. >> i voted for barack obama. >> i voted for barack obama. >> barack obama in 2008. >> i had huge hopes. but you know what, i got burned in 2008. >> the trillions and trillions of dollars of deficits. >> this time. >> this year. >> i've changed. >> i'm changing my vote. >> i changed my mind. >> to mitt romney and paul ryan. >> to romney and ryan. >> to mitt romney and paul ryan. they have plans and ideas that i believe will work. >> greta: joining us our political panel, rick klein, michael crawley, and justin sink. rick? >> find me a voter for voted for mccain four years ago and now says obama. it's a small segment of the population. this is the kind of message. it's an invitation to the former obama voters, the one-time obama voters who may be supporting him right now, on the fence right now, to say join us on the other side, you don't have to hate the guy, that he's the wrong
clarified. >> the middle class was buried by the policies of romney and ryan supported as bill clinton said all they're suggesting when he's asked about this and he's the best, he made the comment, he said, what they're proposing is bush economic policies on steroids. >> now, the president also visited here in nevada, one of his local campaign offices with volunteers. he said the sessions have been so intense that it feels like homework to him, almost like cramming for a final exam. >> bill: republicans are not giving up. six electoral votes. everyone is important, right, ed? >> that's right. some of mitt romney's key surrogate have been here shadowing the president while he does debate prep. yesterday it was ann romney. i saw matt romney was appearing with marco rubio, one of the rising stars from florida. he's here to help turn out the hispanic vote in navy nevada. i sat down with him for an exclusive one on one. he said republicans should calm down about the polls. he believes that mitt romney's going to have a strong debate and he said the message should be very simple. take a listen. >
day. i believe that bill clinton took it every day. this president thinks he's smarter than those guys and doesn't have to engage in the discussion. that's the most important half hour of the day for a president who has to protect the security of the united states. >> george herbert walker bush did not hold any bilateral meetings of the united nations in 1992. >> bill: wait a minute. hang on a second. joe, joe, this is what you're missing. the president of the united states is lying to the families of four dead americans. >> he is not lying. he's not lying. >> bill: if this was a spontaneous attack, they happened to have in their back pocket rocket-propelled grenade, if it wasn't a planned, orchestrated attack? they happened to have a mortar round in their back pocket that they were firing at the embassy? >> sean, sean -- >> bill: wait a minute. why were the -- >> sean, wait for me for a second. when libya fell, when the government collapsed, there were thousands and thousands of rpgs that were missing. we all know that. that's a fact. >> bill: that they just happened to bring to a spo
. >> brian: they are going with the one statement that bill clinton it was so bad when he took over, even i couldn't turn the economy around in four years. >> when you talk to economists, never before has there been so much stimulus, particularly monetary system will, fed printing money. the only why that is happening, i wish bill clinton would use his common sense. the fiscal side of the coin, the side controlled by the white house. that side is scaring businesses. when you threaten them with taxes, you threaten them with more spending, with obamacare, they ratchet back and they don't hire people. >> eric: when they don't hire maybe they don't give people raises. that is part of the reason. its consumer driven economy? >> partially, yes. you have to talk to business people about it. they react non-political. they are not tea party activists. they are moderately conservative. they are scared about the future because they are scared about what is coming out of washington. they are not scared because of tax cuts but they are scared because regulation is going to increase and obamacare and som
, former pollster to president bill clinton. monica crowley, radio talk show host. both fox news contributors. good to have you this morning. hi, there. is that true, doug? i mean that they're skewing, that they're showing higher turnout, those polls are assuming a higher democratic turnout now than in '08 when we know it was huge? >> yes, that is correct. that is part of the story and only part of the story. martha: okay. >> the obama lead is a real one. it is not a lead that would disappear if the polls were weighted in a slightly different direction. but that being said, in the state of ohio, for example, where they have a plus 8 democratic skew, in 2004 it, was a plus 5 republican skew. now i don't expect that we're going to go back as far as we did in '04, martha, but i do think that a 3, 4, 5, point democratic bulk would be right, that means the obama lead woo come down 3, 4, 5 points. there is some bias. obama is still ahead nonetheless. martha: lots to talk about here. monica, there are those who would look at this situation and all the outcry over the polls and say, when
moved the needle in this race because bill clinton went out for 45 minutes and made a case on substance largely against mitt romney and he made it. and romney's 47% remark moved the needle. there is a narrow lead for president obama. so romney needs to make the case affirmatively for his program and why it's better than the president's. this is not just a referendum. this was the romney theory going in. he needs to prove that he's a better choice for the next four years. >> people are still persuadable. 15% is a pretty big number. if you look at undecided voters in most polls it's around 6%. but rich is right. people will pay attention to this and they will look for something maybe to make them change their minds for people who aren't completely thrilled about their choice which actually i think in both parties it's most people. most people aren't that excited about their choice. but it's mostly the independent voters they will have to focus on. bill: you make the case this debate is really for them. the persuadables. >> it's not just for them. it's for those in certain states. it's gre
president was down nine points in mid-september and was tied with bill clinton by the end of october. the clinton eventually won. former clinton pollster is questioning the assumptions being made in today's polls. >> these polls are assuming that you have the same high level of african-american, latino and young people vote in 2012 that you had in 2008. >> obama campaign senior advisor david axelrod said they widely vary so when they all pointed in one direction, they are all wrong. but we are planning for a close race as we always have. another democratic strategist offered this assessment. >> the race isn't over. this can move back three or four times between now and november 6th. >> romney you try to create that momentum. >> of the eight presidential races where the leads were cut or flipped by the opponent, average of comebacks was roughly 35% and in some cases it was the debate that moved the needle. >> gregg: as a reminder we are daig days away from that first presidential debate. we'll have live coverage of the event hosted by megyn kelly and bret baier. that is coming up righ
congressman. and pat caddell, former pollster for jimmy carter. and doug schoen former pollster for bill clinton. doug, the numbers you saw on the screen, since the conventions, the president has gained four and romney has lost two, a swing of six points. >> that is where the race is. there are some polls in the swing states showing outsize leaps for obama the ink they are over sampling democrats and the mainstream media is away from what the race is. that is, a close contest. the president is about 48 or 49 percent approval and vote share. the governor's campaign has lost support. he is down around 43 percent. the 47 percent combined with the drift in the campaign has reduced his vote share, but it is still a a race, and the debate will be critical. >>gregg: this poll shows president obama at 49 and 44 and that can chain instantly. some of the media have written governor romney's obituary, this is premature. >> the media polls, the mainstream media uses the state polls like the new form of negative advertising. other negative campaigning against romney. the news organizations that are b
a debate with then-candidate bill clinton. the gesture gave voters the impression that he was impatient and uninterested. during the 2000 presidential debates, al gore got up in governor george w. bush's grill. look. [laughter] just a classic moment where he was invading his personal space a little, and, boy, did he take some flak. mr. bush gave him a nod and kept talking. in one of the more unusual moments during the vice presidential debates in '92 between republican dan quayle, democrat al gore and the third party running mate of ross perot who was admiral james stockdale, there was this moment. >> admiral stockdale, your opening statement, please, sir. >> who am i? [laughter] why am i here? [laughter] [applause] megyn: he was totally charming and likable but also got a lot of criticism for his performance in that debate, and, you know, his family later came out and said they thought it was unfortunate because they thought it changed his legacy, and he was a very honorable man. in any event, we are all watching wednesday night. they say this is going to be the most important debate b
. they are not the gifted bill clinton kind. so what -- you tell me whether when we listen to these two guys wednesday night it will be how they convince us who has a better poll policy or it will be a moment like avoiding a tbaf, or like al gore seeing. >> we have a greater history of negative things happening in debates that change the trajectory of races. so don't screw up. that's rule number one. but rule number two, if you are mitt romney when you go into this debate you need to change the trajectory of this. you can't do it by being a human fact checker. but what you can do is remember you are talking to tens of millions of american voters that night and whatever the question is, whatever obama says, mitt romney has to make sure he puts a simple clear statement of his views and his beliefs about the future of the united states on the record. it's his chance to put it on the record so he can't screw around. >> i would recommend him not telling too many jokes. he needs to be very careful. >> this economy is no laughing matter. i think most people will be be watching this debate in the hope of who they c
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